he never met him as president although michelle and the girls did. this must have had the tremendous impact, the first black president of the united states, the first black president of south africa. it is really very, very important. and talking about him reaching across to allies. the black people were behind him and they rallied with great pain and sacrifice but so did so many whites in south africa. i remember being on campus during the apartheid days. and my friend john kennedy who took up the mantle of rob kennedy and his father in the cause of civil rights brought helen suesman. very famous campaign here befriended mandela when he was in prison. and she came and delivered an electrifying talk on campus. and you understood that it was because he was able to reach out and get whites on board with him as well that this in the enwas possible. >> finally, sole of us have memories of nelson mandela from television and books and movies. you actually have memories of him from your life. if you would, walk us through that if you would. >> one of the th